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		<title>By: Nestor Urquiza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nestor Urquiza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jul 2011 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Wouldn&#039;t be simpler just to replicate VMs as they are (same Ip/hostname) in DR?

IMO DR should be a dark environment and it should be only turned on when Production is not running.

So I am wondering if someone has experienced with this: SAN to SAN replication to DR and zero reconfiguration to get DR up and running.

Thanks,
-Nestor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t be simpler just to replicate VMs as they are (same Ip/hostname) in DR?</p>
<p>IMO DR should be a dark environment and it should be only turned on when Production is not running.</p>
<p>So I am wondering if someone has experienced with this: SAN to SAN replication to DR and zero reconfiguration to get DR up and running.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
-Nestor</p>
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		<title>By: vCarter</title>
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		<dc:creator>vCarter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 20:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just finished trying this theory out.  We perform 2 offsite DR exercises each year, for different divisions of the company.  We have been replicating our vm&#039;s, but wanted to simplify even more by using this method.  I am pleased to say that this process worked like a charm!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Other than &quot;working as designed&quot;, the only issue that we found was that from the primary site, a few of our vm&#039;s registered the DR IP address in our primary DNS, which obviously caused problems.  We had hoped that changing the binding order of the NICS would resolve this, but it did not.  The work-around was to uncheck the default &quot;register in DNS&quot; within the DR virtual NIC advanced properties.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Our process at the secondary site was to turn off the public/production NIC before we powered on the replica, so there would be no conflicts.  Just turned the replica on, registered the DR IP, and all worked great!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks again for this suggestion, it is now a part of our documented process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just finished trying this theory out.  We perform 2 offsite DR exercises each year, for different divisions of the company.  We have been replicating our vm&#39;s, but wanted to simplify even more by using this method.  I am pleased to say that this process worked like a charm!</p>
<p>Other than &#8220;working as designed&#8221;, the only issue that we found was that from the primary site, a few of our vm&#39;s registered the DR IP address in our primary DNS, which obviously caused problems.  We had hoped that changing the binding order of the NICS would resolve this, but it did not.  The work-around was to uncheck the default &#8220;register in DNS&#8221; within the DR virtual NIC advanced properties.  </p>
<p>Our process at the secondary site was to turn off the public/production NIC before we powered on the replica, so there would be no conflicts.  Just turned the replica on, registered the DR IP, and all worked great!  </p>
<p>Thanks again for this suggestion, it is now a part of our documented process.</p>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thanks! That sounds like another great alternative for simplifying the&lt;br&gt;switch to a DR site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>Thanks! That sounds like another great alternative for simplifying the<br />switch to a DR site.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why don&#039;t you use DHCP on both sites with static reservations for all VM&#039;s therefore no matter which site you rVM runs on it always comes up with the right Ip details corresponding to the site it is on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why don&#39;t you use DHCP on both sites with static reservations for all VM&#39;s therefore no matter which site you rVM runs on it always comes up with the right Ip details corresponding to the site it is on.</p>
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		<title>By: Didier Pironet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Didier Pironet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And for that I&#039;m using a script that pushes out to all VMs up in DR the new values for DNS, GW  and eventually WINS, Search Order and so on.&lt;br&gt;Here is a sample script for whom might be interested:&lt;br&gt;$lines = $(get-content &quot;c:DRServersNewDNS.in&quot;)&lt;br&gt;$backendDNS = &quot;xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx&quot;,&quot;yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy&quot;&lt;br&gt;$frontendDNS = &quot;zzz.zzz.zzz.zzz&quot;&lt;br&gt;foreach ($line in $lines) {&lt;br&gt;   $parts = $line.Split(&quot;,&quot;,[StringSplitOptions]::RemoveEmptyEntries)    &lt;br&gt;   $strComputer = $parts[0] &lt;br&gt;   $strComputer = $strComputer.TrimEnd() &lt;br&gt;   $colItems = get-wmiobject -class &quot;Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration&quot; `&lt;br&gt;   -computername $strComputer &#124; Where{$_.IpEnabled -Match &quot;True&quot;}&lt;br&gt;   foreach ($objItem in $colItems) {&lt;br&gt;      if ($objItem.IPAddress -match &quot;^xyz.abc&quot;){&lt;br&gt;      $objItem.SetDNSServerSearchOrder($backendDNS)&lt;br&gt;      }else{&lt;br&gt;      $objItem.SetDNSServerSearchOrder($frontendDNS)&lt;br&gt;      }&lt;br&gt;   }&lt;br&gt;}</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for that I&#39;m using a script that pushes out to all VMs up in DR the new values for DNS, GW  and eventually WINS, Search Order and so on.<br />Here is a sample script for whom might be interested:<br />$lines = $(get-content &#8220;c:DRServersNewDNS.in&#8221;)<br />$backendDNS = &#8220;xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx&#8221;,&#8221;yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy&#8221;<br />$frontendDNS = &#8220;zzz.zzz.zzz.zzz&#8221;<br />foreach ($line in $lines) {<br />   $parts = $line.Split(&#8220;,&#8221;,[StringSplitOptions]::RemoveEmptyEntries)    <br />   $strComputer = $parts[0] <br />   $strComputer = $strComputer.TrimEnd() <br />   $colItems = get-wmiobject -class &#8220;Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration&#8221; `<br />   -computername $strComputer | Where{$_.IpEnabled -Match &#8220;True&#8221;}<br />   foreach ($objItem in $colItems) {<br />      if ($objItem.IPAddress -match &#8220;^xyz.abc&#8221;){<br />      $objItem.SetDNSServerSearchOrder($backendDNS)<br />      }else{<br />      $objItem.SetDNSServerSearchOrder($frontendDNS)<br />      }<br />   }<br />}</p>
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		<title>By: Dracolith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dracolith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 00:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is possibly where something like Cisco DCI  comes in:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/white_paper_c11_493718.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/swit...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe  VMware validated some L2 bridging scenarios  for  long-istance  VMotion in VSphere, some time ago,  under certain latency requirements..&lt;br&gt;Perhaps long range VMotion under those scenarios could be the all-encompassing DR solution, if you can  [one way or another] solve the problem of seamlessly  switching over storage to  the VM&#039;s    NFS  mount  on  the DR   NAS.....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Otherwise L2  bridging might be _too much_  of a connection between DR and main site.&lt;br&gt;better use something like Datacenter Bridging,   or a L2 bridging loop / broadcast storm could  kill both primary and secondary sites....&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s the question of what happens  if you need a partial  failover?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Better have a fair amount of bandwidth between the two sites,  with redundant connections,   for   inter-VM  traffic...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is possibly where something like Cisco DCI  comes in:<br /><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/switches/ps5718/ps708/white_paper_c11_493718.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/swit" rel="nofollow">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/swit</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe  VMware validated some L2 bridging scenarios  for  long-istance  VMotion in VSphere, some time ago,  under certain latency requirements..<br />Perhaps long range VMotion under those scenarios could be the all-encompassing DR solution, if you can  [one way or another] solve the problem of seamlessly  switching over storage to  the VM&#39;s    NFS  mount  on  the DR   NAS&#8230;..</p>
<p>Otherwise L2  bridging might be _too much_  of a connection between DR and main site.<br />better use something like Datacenter Bridging,   or a L2 bridging loop / broadcast storm could  kill both primary and secondary sites&#8230;.</p>
<p>There&#39;s the question of what happens  if you need a partial  failover?</p>
<p>Better have a fair amount of bandwidth between the two sites,  with redundant connections,   for   inter-VM  traffic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: roadfox</title>
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		<dc:creator>roadfox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might work if you could &quot;switch off&quot; the switch after all is configured. So on Primary Site the DR Switch would be off, and on the DR Site the Primary is off. This way the links of the according interfaces would be down, and no default gateway routing would happen over the &quot;link down&quot; interfaces.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Your next problem is then DNS resolution, if you are using hostnames and not direct ip&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might work if you could &#8220;switch off&#8221; the switch after all is configured. So on Primary Site the DR Switch would be off, and on the DR Site the Primary is off. This way the links of the according interfaces would be down, and no default gateway routing would happen over the &#8220;link down&#8221; interfaces.</p>
<p>Your next problem is then DNS resolution, if you are using hostnames and not direct ip&#39;s.</p>
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