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	<title>Comments on: Detailed P2V Analysis Flowchart for the &#8220;Fruit in the Canopy&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Rich Brambley</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/07/27/detailed-p2v-analysis-flowchart-for-the-fruit-in-the-canopy/comment-page-1/#comment-4431</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Brambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 01:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P2V from remote locations are possible for sure. How long it takes depends on the size of the server data and the bandwidth of the WAN. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P2V from remote locations are possible for sure. How long it takes depends on the size of the server data and the bandwidth of the WAN. </p>
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		<title>By: Shaibal</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/07/27/detailed-p2v-analysis-flowchart-for-the-fruit-in-the-canopy/comment-page-1/#comment-4424</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaibal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 19:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am planning to move some of my physical server to virtual(p2v). However, there are some constraints like the servers are located remotely. Can I do p2v remotely and if yes then how much time will it take. Please also let me know other constraints involved in doing p2v remotely...&lt;br&gt;any help in this regard is highly appreciated.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shaibal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I am planning to move some of my physical server to virtual(p2v). However, there are some constraints like the servers are located remotely. Can I do p2v remotely and if yes then how much time will it take. Please also let me know other constraints involved in doing p2v remotely&#8230;<br />any help in this regard is highly appreciated.</p>
<p>Shaibal</p>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/07/27/detailed-p2v-analysis-flowchart-for-the-fruit-in-the-canopy/comment-page-1/#comment-3675</link>
		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dracolith,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great points, and I can argue that workload is a generic&lt;br&gt;representation of all the gorey details you dive deeper into. Your&lt;br&gt;point is well explained regardless.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as certain apps always being unvirtualize -able, consider a&lt;br&gt;single VM as a guest on it&#039;s own host and not consolidated. There are&lt;br&gt;many unique advantages and VI features that make it worth doing this,&lt;br&gt;and solve the possible resource contention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dracolith,</p>
<p>Great points, and I can argue that workload is a generic<br />representation of all the gorey details you dive deeper into. Your<br />point is well explained regardless.</p>
<p>As far as certain apps always being unvirtualize -able, consider a<br />single VM as a guest on it&#39;s own host and not consolidated. There are<br />many unique advantages and VI features that make it worth doing this,<br />and solve the possible resource contention.</p>
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		<title>By: Dracolith</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/07/27/detailed-p2v-analysis-flowchart-for-the-fruit-in-the-canopy/comment-page-1/#comment-3674</link>
		<dc:creator>Dracolith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 05:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the most important considerations may not be on the chart.&lt;br&gt;And it seemed are really items &quot;Workload&quot;; Disk space/storage isn&#039;t _that_ much separate from  Memory requirements. Almost like &quot;Workload&quot;  is used as a sort of vague &quot;catch all&quot;  on the chart.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peripherals and access to specific networks are also a resource. One resource not mentioned is network usage,  network performance requirements (E.g.  Packets per second),   CPU usage is mentioned, but  &#039;CPU scheduling requirements&#039; arent, eg&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Think along the lines of app sensitivity to timing and Jitter, and suitability of Virtual NICs and vCPUs. For example:  Asterisk  is highly time-sensitive;  you may be able to provide 10x the memory, CPU, and all the needed peripherals while virtualized,  but the VoIP audio quality is unacceptable when virtualized  (for more than a few simultaneous calls).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The VM isn&#039;t running on the CPU 100% of the time,  so  the vCPU ticks aren&#039;t the real clock ticks -- VMware simulates them, and in some cases acts to &quot;catch up&quot; the VM.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The capacity planning tools can&#039;t tell you this, either.    I expect NTP servers, and some other audio and video streaming servers/apps are also quite possibly un-virtualizable.   In RHEL 4, in particular,  NTP abysmally fails at anything close to accurate timekeeping.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You need to test the application, or check with the vendor.&lt;br&gt;Instead of just considering &quot;Workload&quot; and P2V experiences last, some apps should be ruled out immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the most important considerations may not be on the chart.<br />And it seemed are really items &#8220;Workload&#8221;; Disk space/storage isn&#39;t _that_ much separate from  Memory requirements. Almost like &#8220;Workload&#8221;  is used as a sort of vague &#8220;catch all&#8221;  on the chart.</p>
<p>Peripherals and access to specific networks are also a resource. One resource not mentioned is network usage,  network performance requirements (E.g.  Packets per second),   CPU usage is mentioned, but  &#39;CPU scheduling requirements&#39; arent, eg</p>
<p>Think along the lines of app sensitivity to timing and Jitter, and suitability of Virtual NICs and vCPUs. For example:  Asterisk  is highly time-sensitive;  you may be able to provide 10x the memory, CPU, and all the needed peripherals while virtualized,  but the VoIP audio quality is unacceptable when virtualized  (for more than a few simultaneous calls).</p>
<p>The VM isn&#39;t running on the CPU 100% of the time,  so  the vCPU ticks aren&#39;t the real clock ticks &#8212; VMware simulates them, and in some cases acts to &#8220;catch up&#8221; the VM.</p>
<p>The capacity planning tools can&#39;t tell you this, either.    I expect NTP servers, and some other audio and video streaming servers/apps are also quite possibly un-virtualizable.   In RHEL 4, in particular,  NTP abysmally fails at anything close to accurate timekeeping.</p>
<p>You need to test the application, or check with the vendor.<br />Instead of just considering &#8220;Workload&#8221; and P2V experiences last, some apps should be ruled out immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 00:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dracolith,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great points, and I can argue that workload is a generic&lt;br&gt;representation of all the gorey details you dive deeper into. Your&lt;br&gt;point is well explained regardless.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as certain apps always being unvirtualize -able, consider a&lt;br&gt;single VM as a guest on it&#039;s own host and not consolidated. There are&lt;br&gt;many unique advantages and VI features that make it worth doing this,&lt;br&gt;and solve the possible resource contention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dracolith,</p>
<p>Great points, and I can argue that workload is a generic<br />representation of all the gorey details you dive deeper into. Your<br />point is well explained regardless.</p>
<p>As far as certain apps always being unvirtualize -able, consider a<br />single VM as a guest on it&#39;s own host and not consolidated. There are<br />many unique advantages and VI features that make it worth doing this,<br />and solve the possible resource contention.</p>
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		<title>By: Dracolith</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/07/27/detailed-p2v-analysis-flowchart-for-the-fruit-in-the-canopy/comment-page-1/#comment-2804</link>
		<dc:creator>Dracolith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 23:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the most important considerations may not be on the chart.&lt;br&gt;And it seemed are really items &quot;Workload&quot;; Disk space/storage isn&#039;t _that_ much separate from  Memory requirements. Almost like &quot;Workload&quot;  is used as a sort of vague &quot;catch all&quot;  on the chart.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Peripherals and access to specific networks are also a resource. One resource not mentioned is network usage,  network performance requirements (E.g.  Packets per second),   CPU usage is mentioned, but  &#039;CPU scheduling requirements&#039; arent, eg&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Think along the lines of app sensitivity to timing and Jitter, and suitability of Virtual NICs and vCPUs. For example:  Asterisk  is highly time-sensitive;  you may be able to provide 10x the memory, CPU, and all the needed peripherals while virtualized,  but the VoIP audio quality is unacceptable when virtualized  (for more than a few simultaneous calls).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The VM isn&#039;t running on the CPU 100% of the time,  so  the vCPU ticks aren&#039;t the real clock ticks -- VMware simulates them, and in some cases acts to &quot;catch up&quot; the VM.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The capacity planning tools can&#039;t tell you this, either.    I expect NTP servers, and some other audio and video streaming servers/apps are also quite possibly un-virtualizable.   In RHEL 4, in particular,  NTP abysmally fails at anything close to accurate timekeeping.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You need to test the application, or check with the vendor.&lt;br&gt;Instead of just considering &quot;Workload&quot; and P2V experiences last, some apps should be ruled out immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the most important considerations may not be on the chart.<br />And it seemed are really items &#8220;Workload&#8221;; Disk space/storage isn&#39;t _that_ much separate from  Memory requirements. Almost like &#8220;Workload&#8221;  is used as a sort of vague &#8220;catch all&#8221;  on the chart.</p>
<p>Peripherals and access to specific networks are also a resource. One resource not mentioned is network usage,  network performance requirements (E.g.  Packets per second),   CPU usage is mentioned, but  &#39;CPU scheduling requirements&#39; arent, eg</p>
<p>Think along the lines of app sensitivity to timing and Jitter, and suitability of Virtual NICs and vCPUs. For example:  Asterisk  is highly time-sensitive;  you may be able to provide 10x the memory, CPU, and all the needed peripherals while virtualized,  but the VoIP audio quality is unacceptable when virtualized  (for more than a few simultaneous calls).</p>
<p>The VM isn&#39;t running on the CPU 100% of the time,  so  the vCPU ticks aren&#39;t the real clock ticks &#8212; VMware simulates them, and in some cases acts to &#8220;catch up&#8221; the VM.</p>
<p>The capacity planning tools can&#39;t tell you this, either.    I expect NTP servers, and some other audio and video streaming servers/apps are also quite possibly un-virtualizable.   In RHEL 4, in particular,  NTP abysmally fails at anything close to accurate timekeeping.</p>
<p>You need to test the application, or check with the vendor.<br />Instead of just considering &#8220;Workload&#8221; and P2V experiences last, some apps should be ruled out immediately.</p>
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