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The Laws of vMotion? Veeam to Support Microsoft Hyper-V Server 2008 R2

newton.pngIf comparing the v12n community to a religion makes sense, then using Sir Issac Newton’s Laws of Motion to explain Veeam Global “Scientist” Doug Hazelman’s guest post on the Windows Virtualization Team Blog shouldn’t be a stretch either. Hazelman, one of the VM /ETC Q2 UGH recipients, announced the following in the post R2 Veeam Too:

“While Veeam has continued to build some of the best software for data protection and management of VMware infrastructures, we realize that customers are now faced with more virtualization choices. By fully supporting Microsoft Hyper-V and VMware vSphere, Veeam can help you manage heterogeneous hypervisor deployments and clouds with the innovative solutions you’ve come to expect from Veeam. The management and R&D teams at Veeam have a long history of working with Microsoft going back to the Aelita days, and we’re all excited to be working with Microsoft again.”

Imagine your favorite Physics teacher or professor at the chalkboard in an UGLY GREEN lab coat explaining:

Newton’s Laws of Motion are:

  1. A body remains in motion with constant velocity until and unless an external force is applied on it.
  2. Force applied on a body is directly proportional to the rate of change of momentum of the body.
  3. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

Now it is time to go to History class.

Things That Make you Go Hmmmm – VMware Requests Veeam Discontinue Support for Free ESXi in Veeam Backup?

“Veeam, a company that seems to have found a successful niche marketing to SMBs and remote branch office VMware deployments, has been asked to remove support of the use of one it’s popular products with free ESXi. Possibly shedding some additional light on this mystery, the press announcement mentions respect for VMware’s product strategy and Veeam’s long time status as a technology partner.”

Things That Make You Go Hmmmm – Veeam Backup Not Using Preferred Free ESXi APIs?

” … makes the point that VMware’s decision not to position free ESXi for production use could ultimately drive current technology partners, consulting partners, and customers to build SMB virtual infrastructure solutions around the competition’s hypervisors.

On a related note, Microsoft has officially released to manufacturing the Hyper-V Server 2008 R2 versions that contain the live migration features.

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  • Paul

    I thought the same thing and searched last night. Found this quote the implies they were planning Hyper-V support before the ESXi mess,

    http://www.veeam.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t… where they state,

    “Yes, most certainly – Hyper-V is our next big thing. But not because of this situation, of course – we've planned this much earlier. Many of our large customers told us they already have, or are planning to have heterogeneous virtual environments (2-3 hypervisors). And they all want heterogeneous tools to manage them.”

    Paul

  • http://vmetc.com rbrambley

    Paul,

    You are right – many third party VMware virtualization solution providers have promised to offer their products for the competition's platforms all along. My inside sources tell me that recent events have accelerated the push to expand the offerings from Veeam sooner than later, however. No doubt the timing of the release of Hyper-V 2008 R2 has added a boost to this scenario too.

  • Dracolith

    I guess people want heterogenous environments because VMware software with even basic capabilities is excessively expensive, and in the future not going to be worth near the price premium in most cases, especially for lab/software test environments.

    Free ESXi is nice, but not that attractive anymore (compared to other options), doesn't even provide entry level capability like backups or live migration.

    The biggest reason to pick VMware is they have the most mature product, with the best multi-OS support, and some features none of the others have, but that's changing as the gap narrows, and the list of unique necessary features in VMware dwindles. I'll grant VMware still has the greatest featureset at the high end, if you can afford the expensive licenses to deploy the high end software, that is.

    “Enterprise+ users get Host Profiles” isn't going to change the mind of a SMB considering Essentials, anyways.

    A big part of that featureset is provided by third parties like Veeam, special products that provide time and cost savings, and are only available if you use VMware. By keeping their prices so high at the mid-end, they give competitors a lot of room to spring up and undercut them.

    Naturally it's in the third-parties interest to support all hypervisors with their products, for maximum sales, as other hypervisors take hold.

    I maintain that if one year ago, VMware had done away with per-CPU licensing, re-priced vCenter at $500, and offered VMware Enterprise at a flat ~$1000/server inclusive of SnS, there would have been very little interest in anyone competing with them.

    VMware would have been ubiquitous, remained THE hypervisor, and the profits enormous — there are free Open Source hypervisors, but they can't easily compete in a timely way with VMware due to disparity in funding development (not without someone large such as Citrix providing funding for development).

  • Dr.Evil

    Rich, nice post – I really liked the parallels with Newton’s Laws.

    Dracolith, even in this case Microsoft would still compete with them I guess… don't you think?

  • http://www.VMDoug.com vmdoug

    I finally got around to reading this! Great post Rich! Sorry I missed it earlier this week. I also put up a link on http://veeammeup.com/2009/07/veeam-announces-co… and I'll give you a trackback.

    Thanks again, I'll wear my UGH shirt with pride!

    -doug

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  • farewelldave

    I just hope that VMware took notes from Tech History 101 and does not turn into a modern day Novell…

  • Dr.Evil

    And here is what Microsoft thinks about this:
    http://blogs.technet.com/virtualization/archive

  • http://www.escrubz.com/ medical uniforms

    nice comparison of newton law of motion with new data and storage software.

  • Virtualization Guru

    A small update. It seems that Veeam backup & Replications has started to offer a full support for VMware ESXi. I have read a bit about their announcement earlier today at:

    http://www.virtualizationteam.com/veeam/veeam-b

    I hope that help.

  • Virtualization Guru

    A small update. It seems that Veeam backup & Replications has started to offer a full support for VMware ESXi. I have read a bit about their announcement earlier today at:

    http://www.virtualizationteam.com/veeam/veeam-b

    I hope that help.

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