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	<title>Comments on: Things That Make You Go Hmmmm &#8211; Veeam Backup Not Using Preferred Free ESXi APIs?</title>
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		<title>By: ESXi Backup Solution</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/06/05/things-that-make-you-go-hmmmm-veeam-backup-not-using-preferred-free-esxi-apis/comment-page-1/#comment-2764</link>
		<dc:creator>ESXi Backup Solution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] backups with ESXi4 (free) have been discontinued by most vendors under request by VMware.  Things That Make You Go Hmmmm - Veeam Backup Not Using Preferred Free ESXi APIs? &#124; VM /ETC  So its possible to still use the APIs and its possible for people to make their own, check out [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] backups with ESXi4 (free) have been discontinued by most vendors under request by VMware.  Things That Make You Go Hmmmm &#8211; Veeam Backup Not Using Preferred Free ESXi APIs? | VM /ETC  So its possible to still use the APIs and its possible for people to make their own, check out [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shrouded.net</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/06/05/things-that-make-you-go-hmmmm-veeam-backup-not-using-preferred-free-esxi-apis/comment-page-1/#comment-2719</link>
		<dc:creator>shrouded.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;VMware: Protecting their turf or their customers?...&lt;/strong&gt;


I think most of the people up in arms over VMware&#039;s dealings with Veeam last month (the story broke here) are missing a very important piece of the puzzle.  The folks at Palo Alto are looking out for their customers in an important way, and aren&#039;t ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>VMware: Protecting their turf or their customers?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I think most of the people up in arms over VMware&#8217;s dealings with Veeam last month (the story broke here) are missing a very important piece of the puzzle.  The folks at Palo Alto are looking out for their customers in an important way, and aren&#8217;t &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jibeddari,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess you could, but if you started selling your solution to VMware ESXi customers not just VMware but AutoIT and AutoHotkey would probably start paying attention. I think AutoIT is no longer open source and I am not sure about AutoHotkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jibeddari,</p>
<p>I guess you could, but if you started selling your solution to VMware ESXi customers not just VMware but AutoIT and AutoHotkey would probably start paying attention. I think AutoIT is no longer open source and I am not sure about AutoHotkey.</p>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/06/05/things-that-make-you-go-hmmmm-veeam-backup-not-using-preferred-free-esxi-apis/comment-page-1/#comment-2645</link>
		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jibeddari,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I guess you could, but if you started selling your solution to VMware ESXi customers not just VMware but AutoIT and AutoHotkey would probably start paying attention. I think AutoIT is no longer open source and I am not sure about AutoHotkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jibeddari,</p>
<p>I guess you could, but if you started selling your solution to VMware ESXi customers not just VMware but AutoIT and AutoHotkey would probably start paying attention. I think AutoIT is no longer open source and I am not sure about AutoHotkey.</p>
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		<title>By: jibeddari</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/06/05/things-that-make-you-go-hmmmm-veeam-backup-not-using-preferred-free-esxi-apis/comment-page-1/#comment-2638</link>
		<dc:creator>jibeddari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could actually build a similar setup with click-automation tools like AutoIT or AutoHotkey.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If someone did that and sold it as a backup solution, then what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could actually build a similar setup with click-automation tools like AutoIT or AutoHotkey.</p>
<p>If someone did that and sold it as a backup solution, then what?</p>
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		<title>By: VeeamMeUp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Veeam Essentials Bundle</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/06/05/things-that-make-you-go-hmmmm-veeam-backup-not-using-preferred-free-esxi-apis/comment-page-1/#comment-2625</link>
		<dc:creator>VeeamMeUp &#187; Blog Archive &#187; New Veeam Essentials Bundle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 20:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Rich Brambley at VMETC again after Alex Barrett&#8217;s post  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Rich Brambley at VMETC again after Alex Barrett&#8217;s post  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
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		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evil,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great point. The only difference is Veeam is initiating a snap shot&lt;br&gt;and then deleting it during back up, but that seems trivial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evil,</p>
<p>Great point. The only difference is Veeam is initiating a snap shot<br />and then deleting it during back up, but that seems trivial.</p>
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		<title>By: Evil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 09:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas said: &quot;What it looks like they did was use the APIs that are private APIs for how VMware can upload/download files to datastores via Browse Datastore. That is not a method that the private APIs where ever to be used and I imagine there are reasons VMware does not want to see that large amount of data going over a private API that was never intended for that amount of traffic.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This comment is complete nonsense. I thought Datastore Browser was specifically designed for customers to be able to upload and download ISO and VMDK files to/from ESXi hosts&#039; local storage. Do you know any other way? And Veeam used these APIs to do exactly the same thing (upload/download VMDKs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas said: &#8220;What it looks like they did was use the APIs that are private APIs for how VMware can upload/download files to datastores via Browse Datastore. That is not a method that the private APIs where ever to be used and I imagine there are reasons VMware does not want to see that large amount of data going over a private API that was never intended for that amount of traffic.&#8221;</p>
<p>This comment is complete nonsense. I thought Datastore Browser was specifically designed for customers to be able to upload and download ISO and VMDK files to/from ESXi hosts&#39; local storage. Do you know any other way? And Veeam used these APIs to do exactly the same thing (upload/download VMDKs).</p>
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