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	<title>Comments on: Should Companies Repurpose Older Servers as Virtualization Hosts?</title>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/04/10/should-companies-repurpose-older-servers-as-virtualization-hosts/comment-page-1/#comment-3879</link>
		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nettraptor,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great criteria breakdown. Can&#039;t argue with any of those.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark over  at Lanamark was inspired to list factors that influence &lt;br&gt;reusing older hardware as hosts too. Check out&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determine-if-existing-servers-should-be-redeployed-as-virtual-machine-hosts.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determi...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nettraptor,</p>
<p>Great criteria breakdown. Can&#39;t argue with any of those.</p>
<p>Mark over  at Lanamark was inspired to list factors that influence <br />reusing older hardware as hosts too. Check out<br /><a href="http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determine-if-existing-servers-should-be-redeployed-as-virtual-machine-hosts.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determi" rel="nofollow">http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determi</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/04/10/should-companies-repurpose-older-servers-as-virtualization-hosts/comment-page-1/#comment-2340</link>
		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nettraptor,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Great criteria breakdown. Can&#039;t argue with any of those.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mark over  at Lanamark was inspired to list factors that influence &lt;br&gt;reusing older hardware as hosts too. Check out&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determine-if-existing-servers-should-be-redeployed-as-virtual-machine-hosts.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determi...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*Rich Brambley*&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:rbrambley@gmail.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;rbrambley@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;VM /ETC &lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://feeds2.feedburner.com/%257Er/vmetc/%257E6/2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://feeds2.feedburner.com/%7Er/vmetc/%7E6/2&lt;/a&gt;&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;? Grab this Headline Animator &lt;br&gt;&lt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/headlineanimator/install?id=vl93mtvd4u8jv56cf3udjdheak&amp;w=2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/headlineanima...&lt;/a&gt;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nettraptor,</p>
<p>Great criteria breakdown. Can&#39;t argue with any of those.</p>
<p>Mark over  at Lanamark was inspired to list factors that influence <br />reusing older hardware as hosts too. Check out<br /><a href="http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determine-if-existing-servers-should-be-redeployed-as-virtual-machine-hosts.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determi" rel="nofollow">http://blog.lanamark.com/2009/04/how-to-determi</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>*Rich Brambley*<br /><a href="mailto:rbrambley@gmail.com" rel="nofollow">rbrambley@gmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: nettraptor</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/04/10/should-companies-repurpose-older-servers-as-virtualization-hosts/comment-page-1/#comment-2337</link>
		<dc:creator>nettraptor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 11:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all boils down to basic if statements and common sense. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Find the Machines that are up to the task. Generally if you ask the question &quot;does this machine support VT?&quot; you get the answer which machines are capable. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Find Underutilized Servers. If you try to get something out of a bloated machine you will most probably get nothing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Estimate upgrade costs to bring them up to the task. Yes it is very probable that servers less than 3 years old  can be up to the task but upgrades (a bit of memory here and there, storage over here) can not be avoided.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Calculate the ROI for performing this task including man hours, extra costs, cost savings etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is a purpose to repurpose older servers as virtualization hosts only if they are newish, underutilized and total cost of upgrade does not make sense both now and in the long run.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sometimes we do get indecisive and do get mixed up in our choices. The choice parameters off the above question are known to us since we started virtualizing stuff.  Some of those parameters and choices are the essence of the virtualization argument.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would be happy to hear arguments or something i missed out of the equation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all boils down to basic if statements and common sense. </p>
<p>-Find the Machines that are up to the task. Generally if you ask the question &#8220;does this machine support VT?&#8221; you get the answer which machines are capable. </p>
<p>-Find Underutilized Servers. If you try to get something out of a bloated machine you will most probably get nothing.</p>
<p>-Estimate upgrade costs to bring them up to the task. Yes it is very probable that servers less than 3 years old  can be up to the task but upgrades (a bit of memory here and there, storage over here) can not be avoided.</p>
<p>-Calculate the ROI for performing this task including man hours, extra costs, cost savings etc.</p>
<p>There is a purpose to repurpose older servers as virtualization hosts only if they are newish, underutilized and total cost of upgrade does not make sense both now and in the long run.</p>
<p>Sometimes we do get indecisive and do get mixed up in our choices. The choice parameters off the above question are known to us since we started virtualizing stuff.  Some of those parameters and choices are the essence of the virtualization argument.</p>
<p>I would be happy to hear arguments or something i missed out of the equation.</p>
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		<title>By: vseanclark</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never seen servers re-used in a primary datacenter yet.  Tons of folks re-using server hardware in their DR sites though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never seen servers re-used in a primary datacenter yet.  Tons of folks re-using server hardware in their DR sites though.</p>
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		<title>By: rbrambley</title>
		<link>http://vmetc.com/2009/04/10/should-companies-repurpose-older-servers-as-virtualization-hosts/comment-page-1/#comment-2327</link>
		<dc:creator>rbrambley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carlo,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No doubt. An Enterprise License agreement tends to encourage a company &lt;br&gt;to virtualize everything they can! There is not much better than seeing &lt;br&gt;all those available ESX licenses in VirtualCenter!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carlo,</p>
<p>No doubt. An Enterprise License agreement tends to encourage a company <br />to virtualize everything they can! There is not much better than seeing <br />all those available ESX licenses in VirtualCenter!!</p>
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		<title>By: ccostan</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccostan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve also noticed more repurposing of older equipment at my clients with VMware ELAs (Enterprise Licensing Agreements) in place which allows them to take the licensing costs out of the equation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CARLO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve also noticed more repurposing of older equipment at my clients with VMware ELAs (Enterprise Licensing Agreements) in place which allows them to take the licensing costs out of the equation. </p>
<p>CARLO.</p>
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